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The Left and Kyle Rittenhouse

November 19, 2021

(It is highly recommended that readers watch the above video (64 minutes) before commenting. It should go without saying that if someone posts a video, you should watch it before commenting because it figures into everything that they are saying, but I want to emphasize it here.)

Saying that the Kyle Rittenhouse video makes a strong case for self-defense does not mean I support right-wing militia groups. I’ve already had at least two Facebook allies block me for doing a 180 on Rittenhouse after seeing the above video. It just means that I have eyes and don’t think that being right-wing means someone should go to prison for murder if they were defending themselves from an attack that was instigated by people who were not even BLM protestors. It doesn’t make Jimmy Dore a right-wing grifter, nor is Matt Orfalea is a right-winger, nor does it make TYT fascist for agreeing it was self-defense as people are claiming on a leftist anti-Biden Facebook group called Malarkey Joe’s Establishment Doo-Wop Ice Cream Shoppe & You Know the Thing were saying just from seeing the preview card, although it also does not mean that they are not fascist. they’ve been shitlib right since they got money from Jeffrey Katzenberg, leading them to lies about Julian Assange, Russiagate, and other issues.

The claim that Rittenhouse’s mother drove him across state lines with an assault weapon has been repeated a lot without supporting evidence, as was the claim that he left his community to go to Kenosha because he was looking for trouble. He worked as a lifeguard in Kenosha, where much of his family still lives after his parents’ divorce and is 17 minutes away from his house. He met up with a friend after work and went to his house. He saw what was going on on the news and got the gun owned by his friend’s father out of a vault there. The video shows that he never fired until Rosenbaum, a recently released mental patient with a history of child rape who had attempted to push a burning dumpster into a gas station (which is on video) began chasing him, alongside his friend, Joshua Ziminski, who is wanted for other charges. Ziminski fired his gun into the air, but Rittenhouse had no way of knowing where the gun was pointed because he was running away. After shooting Rosenbaum four times three seconds after Ziminski fired, Rittenhouse ran down the block toward the police vehicles when he was kicked in the head by an unknown person, then beaten by Anthony Huber with the skateboard, who apparently tried to grab his gun before he was shot and killed. Gaige Grosskreutz, who was armed, put his hands up, then pointed the gun at Rittenhouse, who then shot him in the arm. Rittenhouse then ran to the police vehicles, which ignored him and drove off. He later turned himself in.

The main issues here are whether Rittenhouse did anything to Rosenbaum that is not on video to initiate the chase, and why Rittenhouse fired four times, since it was the third that killed him (the second shot left him on the ground and presumably subdued as a threat), and whether forensic evidence shows that Rosenbaum grabbed the gun as Rittenhouse claims, and whether Huber grabbed his gun. I’ve never used a gun, but if two people have just hit you in the head, it’s hard to imagine not pulling the trigger when you’re fleeing an attack and trying to get to nearby police cars. Jimmy Dore shows footage of TYT outright lying about the incident, Cenk Uygur claiming that Rittenhouse shot wildly into the crowd, which the video does NOT show. He shows another clip where Ana Kasparian claims that there is video of Rittenhouse chasing people into a parking lot with a gun. I googled for this and couldn’t find it. He then shows video of Ana Kasparian admitting she hasn’t seen the video. Then he shows video of her apologizing for misreporting on the video after she has seen it and admitting it suggests he acted in self-defense. Images of Rittenhouse show that he was indeed giving first aid and cleaning graffiti off a school.

Another thing I hear a lot is that “medics shouldn’t be armed, so we know he wasn’t a medic.” When I remind them that Grosskreutz was there as a medic and armed, all I’ve gotten is derision and laughter because they don’t have a good explanation for that.

Another claim is that Rittenhouse didn’t know anything about Rosenbaum’s past, so it’s not justification for shooting him. I never made that claim. Rittenhouse did know that Rosenbaum started a literal dumpster fire–some people are even saying he was the guy with the fire extinguisher in the video, and there is video of Rosenbaum harassing people and saying, “Shoot me, n****r!” The background that he is a mentally ill child rapist just suggests that Rosenbaum’s overall behavior, and certainly what we saw of it in the video, would give someone good cause to feel threatened. while Rosenbaum’s background cannot be considered justification for Rittenhouse shooting him, it augments the video evidence that Rosenbaum was threatening multiple people. On the other hand, they (including Mike Figueredo of The Humanist Report, whom I’ve posted here previously) are upset that a video from weeks earlier, in which Rittenhouse witnesses an armed robbery of a CVS and wishes he had the same gun he got from his friend’s father’s vault to go after them, has been ruled inadmissible evidence by the judge because, for the same reasons, it does not pertain directly to the case. As my Facebook frenemy, The New York Post‘s Seth Barron, pointed out, none of this proves that Rittenhouse is a white supremacist, let alone does it prove that I’m now a white supremacist with the Proud Boys and Boogaloo Boys as Adam Weissman accused me over Facebook Messenger, as his favorite source, The Majority Report, has drifted further right.

I posted this on Mike Figueredo’s video, “Why Kyle Rittenhouse Wins Regardless if He’s Found Guilty or Not:”

1. This case has nothing to do with white supremacy. The two dead and one injured are all white.
2. He crossed state lines (20 minutes away) to go to his job as a lifeguard. He obtained the weapon at a friend’s house before seeing riots on TV and wanted to help.
3. Did you even watch the videos? There are five videos of the incident. All show Rittenhouse being chased and shot at before he shot at anyone. The second guy beat him in the head, and the third pointed a gun at him.
4. If the video were identical, but Rittenhouse were black, assuming the same number of people saw it, it would be considered self-defense to all but the far-right.
5. Joseph Rosenbaum was not a BLM protestor. He was a recently released mental patient and child rapist that was calling the crowds the N-word and literally telling people to shoot him.

Your reporting on this is full shitlib.

I have had at least two Facebook friends block me on Facebook over my opinions. One was a bit justified because I called Anthony Huber a fool after he called him a hero, (Right-wingers are pointing out that Huber was a wife-beater, which, even if true, is again irrelevant to the case.) People are trying to make this into an “us” (BLM) vs. “them” (the right) situation. It’s not right-wing to be concerned about facts and evidence. If you’re against wrongful conviction, why do you want someone wrongfully convicted just because you don’t like his ideology? We are not literally at war (at least not within the country), and I hope it doesn’t come down to that. This is a country of laws where people have the right to self defense. One of the people on Malarkey Joe’s said that Jimmy Dore fans should “get the wall” right after fascists. Apparently, they fail to see that attitude as fascist.

The reporting on this story is so bad that people are telling me that I didn’t see video of Kyle Rittenhouse being chased and shot at before he ever fired, which is effectively an accusation that Matt Orfalea altered the time codes and showed events out of order, but is more likely just them just tacitly admitting that they haven’t seen it and going by what they’ve been told, as I was before watching the above video. Another person posted multiple YouTube comments with the username Latisha Walker alleging that Rittenhouse murdered three black women, so one can see how quickly blatantly false information gets spread. I’m all about rejecting false narratives. This was the ultimate theme of the unauthorized Monster in My Pocket screenplay I wrote in college, with the idea of being antithetical to the “print the legend” concept in John Ford’s 1962 film, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. In hindsight, I can see how a media franchise with toys might not be too interested in something like that being associated with their brand. Despite my interest in fantasy (big-T truth need not be literal), my attitude is more one of Jean-Luc Godard’s “the cinema is truth 24 frames-per-second.” I am strongly against bending the truth to fit one’s narrative, especially when talking about real life as opposed to art, if this gets me shunned by political allies, it’s only their own dishonesty that is to blame.

9 Comments
  1. It seems the jury came in with their not guilty verdict while I was writing this. I’m seeing a lot of angry posts on Facebook, many of which contain misinformation.

  2. Look at this vitriol:

    Scott Hutchins
    Christiana Hellsing This doesn’t have anything to do with being BIPOC. The jury was right in this case. https://scottandrewhutchins.wordpress.com/…/the-left…/
    The Left and Kyle Rittenhouse
    SCOTTANDREWHUTCHINS.WORDPRESS.COM
    The Left and Kyle Rittenhouse
    The Left and Kyle Rittenhouse
    · Reply · Remove Preview · 56m
    Cee Court Hidefrom-Zucc
    Scott Hutchins absolutely not.
    · Reply · 47m
    Christiana Hellsing
    I’m aware the trial was rigged. But from personal experience in wisconsin that place is trash and not safe for anyone not white
    · Reply · 45m
    Sara Dillon
    Did you just link to your own written article where you name drop folks that either blocked/unfriended you? I’m sorry was that relevant to your stance to name drop them by full name?
    This is a joke right?
    · Reply · 42m
    Cee Court Hidefrom-Zucc
    Scott Hutchins that article needs a lot of work.
    · Reply · 41m
    Scott Hutchins
    Cee Court Hidefrom-Zucc Thanks for admitting that you don’t know what actually happened.
    · Reply · 37m
    Cee Court Hidefrom-Zucc
    Scott Hutchins uhhhh, no, I watched the footage and it doesn’t make him any less of a murderer. He went to the site with the intent to kill someone. He openly bragged about it beforehand and afterwards. He posed flashing yt power signs with proud boys.… See more
    · Reply · 35m
    Scott Hutchins
    Sara Dillon Since you complained, I deleted their names. You were right to criticize me for that.
    · Reply · 33m
    Scott Hutchins
    Cee Court Hidefrom-Zucc “He went to the site with the intent to kill someone.” Where is the evidence for this?
    · Reply · 25m
    Melina Medici
    Scott Hutchins he went w an assault rifle. Like stop it. You’re not right. And that’s that.
    · Reply · 18m
    Scott Hutchins
    Melina Medici So did Gaige Grosskreutz. That’s not an argument.
    · Reply · 12m
    Sara Dillon
    I watched your video sir, and uh sure even if he was chased by a crowd, unless we’re missing something here it doesn’t show shots fired at him until after he shot and killed a man. But also what in the fuck are you doing showing up somewhere with an as… See more
    · Reply · 12m
    Melina Medici
    Your entire page is filled with trying to talk over ppl. And trying to explain why a seventeen year old picked up an assault right to defend folks he didn’t know who stated they didn’t ask for help. You’re gaslighting ppl by saying you have eyes like y… See more
    · Reply · 11m
    Scott Hutchins
    Sara Dillon You missed the part of Ziminski shooting off his gun while he was chasing Rittenhouse.
    · Reply · 11m · Edited
    Sara Dillon
    Scott Hutchins that wasn’t a complaint. That was pointing out a poor taste shoddy journalism. There was no reason to full name drop someone to try to make your point valid 😅
    · Reply · 10m
    Melina Medici
    Scott Hutchins idk what that means. I’m not arguing w you because you don’t have a stance. You just have opinions based in some fictional semi hysterical need to defend doughy faced white boys much like yourself.
    · Reply · 10m
    Scott Hutchins
    Melina Medici I’m not gaslighting anyone.
    · Reply · 10m
    Melina Medici
    Scott Hutchins is he a friend of yours or do you do this for all white men being held accountable for their gross actions? Is he just a confused whittle baby not with no idea what he did wrong?
    · Reply · 9m
    Melina Medici
    Scott Hutchins you are. Period. That’s not a matter of opinion either.
    · Reply · 9m
    Scott Hutchins
    Sara Dillon Again, explain why Gaige Grosskreutz was armed.
    · Reply · 9m · Edited
    Melina Medici
    Do yourself a favor and close your mouth for a week and just listen. Cause out of all I’ve said you keep going for straw man replies cause again you’ve got nothing.
    · Reply · 9m
    Melina Medici
    Scott Hutchins you mean his handgun? Are you really being this obtuse?
    · Reply · 8m
    Sara Dillon
    Scott Hutchins sure as hell wasn’t with an assault rifle. I’m not humoring your gaslighting nonsense.
    · Reply · 8m
    Melina Medici
    Jesus H bruh just block al of us. You keep proving why white men deserve literally nothing.
    · Reply · 8m
    Scott Hutchins
    Melina Medici Bullshit! Now you’re going for ad hominem attack lies rather than the facts of the case.
    · Reply · 5m
    Scott Hutchins
    Melina Medici Liars like you deserve nothing.
    · Reply · 5m
    Scott Hutchins
    Sara Dillon In what way am I gaslighting?
    · Reply · 5m · Edited
    Scott Hutchins
    Melina Medici So it’s OK for some people to show up armed, but not others.
    · Reply · 4m
    Sara Dillon
    Scott Hutchins ooooh yikes with the gaslight and now attacks. You’re a piece of work 😖
    · Reply · 4m
    Scott Hutchins
    Sara Dillon How did I attack anyone?
    · Reply · 3m
    Cee Court Hidefrom-Zucc
    Scott Hutchins enough.
    You are out of control.… See more
    · Reply · 3m
    Cee Court Hidefrom-Zucc
    Melina Medici I am so sorry.
    I do not tolerate this, and I hope that this doesn’t reflect on our relationship.
    · Reply · 2m
    Scott Hutchins
    Cee Court Hidefrom-Zucc “You just have opinions based in some fictional semi hysterical need to defend doughy faced white boys much like yourself.” is a lie and the only thing that needs an apology.
    · Reply · 1m
    Sara Dillon
    Scott Hutchins “Melina Medici Liars like you deserve nothing.” Dude you’re deadass going at someone because she doesn’t agree with you. So instead of having a conversation minus attacks, and being rational you go for trying to attack their character. Ayyyyooo abuse son.
    · Reply · 1m
    Cee Court Hidefrom-Zucc
    Scott Hutchins you have no space to speak here any longer, unless it’s to apologize.
    Respect that.
    · Reply · 1m
    Scott Hutchins
    Sara Dillon “You just have opinions based in some fictional semi hysterical need to defend doughy faced white boys much like yourself.” is a lie and an attack.
    · Reply · 1m
    Scott Hutchins
    Cee Court Hidefrom-Zucc I don’t apologize to people who lie about me for calling them a liar.
    · Reply · 1m

  3. Kit Everson
    Scott Hutchins Scott, buddy, you may not consider yourself alt right, but you are at the very least an alt right sympathizer. We don’t need people like you in power. Stop running for office and writing your weird opinion based “articles”
    · Reply · 1m
    Scott Hutchins
    Kit Everson More knee-jerk lies.

  4. Reality Check permalink

    Will you shut the fuck up already? It is like you want the world to continue to hate you.

  5. Reality Check permalink

    Are you banned on Facebook yet?

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